Comments on: What tools do you need to train your dog adequately? http://chiefsbrittanys.com/2008/04/24/what-tools-do-you-need-to-train-your-dog-adequately/ American and French Brittanys as companion gun dogs. Hunting, training, trialing and more. Wed, 11 Aug 2010 00:36:31 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: SteveH http://chiefsbrittanys.com/2008/04/24/what-tools-do-you-need-to-train-your-dog-adequately/comment-page-1/#comment-108 SteveH Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:24:12 +0000 http://chiefsbrittanys.com/?p=150#comment-108 Boy Dave, you brought up an interesting topic again. My own belief is that although these are certainly an expensive item, I put the remote launchers high up in my need to own category. They are IMHO a great training aid to simulate hunting situations while keeping total control. By this I mean since you have the remote control, you have the ability to launch the bird whenever you deem it right to do so,whether for a positive or negative event. It seems to me that by using these launchers correctly, they can really shorten the learning curve of a young dog. I got 2 DT(Quail sized) launchers last year at the recommendation of another member of our forum. I will never look back. So, save, scrimp, borrow, beg, steal(well maybe not steal), go in together with others to share the cost, or whatever, but for me, they are a need to own item. Boy Dave, you brought up an interesting topic again. My own belief is that although these are certainly an expensive item, I put the remote launchers high up in my need to own category. They are IMHO a great training aid to simulate hunting situations while keeping total control. By this I mean since you have the remote control, you have the ability to launch the bird whenever you deem it right to do so,whether for a positive or negative event. It seems to me that by using these launchers correctly, they can really shorten the learning curve of a young dog. I got 2 DT(Quail sized) launchers last year at the recommendation of another member of our forum. I will never look back. So, save, scrimp, borrow, beg, steal(well maybe not steal), go in together with others to share the cost, or whatever, but for me, they are a need to own item.

]]> By: jdb39 http://chiefsbrittanys.com/2008/04/24/what-tools-do-you-need-to-train-your-dog-adequately/comment-page-1/#comment-107 jdb39 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:08:45 +0000 http://chiefsbrittanys.com/?p=150#comment-107 I got together with a group of friends who all train dogs and we just purchased four remote launchers. We all take turns using them and we all keep different species of game birds to train with. It has worked out wonderfully. We have better equipment, and are able to help each other with the common goal of having great dogs. "Together we stand". I've been very pleased with the DT system. It's especially nice to get a few now with the option of adding more at any time. We have been learning different configurations of setting them up to aid in steadiness, and other objectives. Thanks again Dave, for sharing your wealth of knowledge. I got together with a group of friends who all train dogs and we just purchased four remote launchers. We all take turns using them and we all keep different species of game birds to train with. It has worked out wonderfully. We have better equipment, and are able to help each other with the common goal of having great dogs. “Together we stand”. I’ve been very pleased with the DT system. It’s especially nice to get a few now with the option of adding more at any time. We have been learning different configurations of setting them up to aid in steadiness, and other objectives. Thanks again Dave, for sharing your wealth of knowledge.

]]> By: Dave Jones http://chiefsbrittanys.com/2008/04/24/what-tools-do-you-need-to-train-your-dog-adequately/comment-page-1/#comment-106 Dave Jones Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:46:01 +0000 http://chiefsbrittanys.com/?p=150#comment-106 Good points Bob. When I first went from kick cages and wing locking, I scrimped and saved enough for one manual launcher. Of course I was much younger but I would put out one bird at a time. I also had a pull string attached and it was quite awkward but nonetheless, that's how I did it. I then mentored with Lou Foehrkolb who had a remote launcher or 2. He showed me things with his remote that I couldn't do with my manual launcher so I scrimped and saved more money. Then I had my remote launcher! It was awesome but I could only afford one so there I was again, running back and forth putting out my one bird. Quite comical when I look back now <grin> I honestly trained with just one remote and one manual launcher for nearly 10 years. It was tough but like I said, I was young. I think a club or cooperative training group or something like that is terrific. Outside of that, it's just like I started, scrimping and saving until you can buy it and making do in the meanwhile. Before kick cages for quail, I had homemade harnesses. Pigeons can have their wings locked easily Not until I really got into heavy daily training did I buy a 2nd and 3rd remote launcher. Now I have about 5 or so but really only use 2 or 3 at a time. DT systems remote launcher / transmitter is about 275 or so and I agree, it is expensive but well worth the while. I would say that piece of equipment is more important than anyother piece of training equipment, including the e-collar, but that's JMHO. Thanks for the comments! Dave Good points Bob. When I first went from kick cages and wing locking, I scrimped and saved enough for one manual launcher. Of course I was much younger but I would put out one bird at a time. I also had a pull string attached and it was quite awkward but nonetheless, that’s how I did it.

I then mentored with Lou Foehrkolb who had a remote launcher or 2. He showed me things with his remote that I couldn’t do with my manual launcher so I scrimped and saved more money. Then I had my remote launcher! It was awesome but I could only afford one so there I was again, running back and forth putting out my one bird. Quite comical when I look back now

I honestly trained with just one remote and one manual launcher for nearly 10 years. It was tough but like I said, I was young.

I think a club or cooperative training group or something like that is terrific. Outside of that, it’s just like I started, scrimping and saving until you can buy it and making do in the meanwhile. Before kick cages for quail, I had homemade harnesses. Pigeons can have their wings locked easily

Not until I really got into heavy daily training did I buy a 2nd and 3rd remote launcher. Now I have about 5 or so but really only use 2 or 3 at a time.

DT systems remote launcher / transmitter is about 275 or so and I agree, it is expensive but well worth the while. I would say that piece of equipment is more important than anyother piece of training equipment, including the e-collar, but that’s JMHO.

Thanks for the comments!

Dave

]]> By: Peacher79 http://chiefsbrittanys.com/2008/04/24/what-tools-do-you-need-to-train-your-dog-adequately/comment-page-1/#comment-105 Peacher79 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:37:38 +0000 http://chiefsbrittanys.com/?p=150#comment-105 Dave, Unfortunately, in this day and age, practically everyone has to use some form of pen raised bird to train their dog. Some people's dogs never get to see a wild bird as they continue to pursue only preserve birds the dogs entire life. As you well know, pen raised birds present some unique challenges you have to deal with. Buying your own laucher is a delemia I think every one or two dog amateur trainer faces. A remote launcher is a big investment. I just can't justify buying one. I think the best way for a one dog trainer like myself is to join together with others and buy some or join a dog club that has some you can use. I would think you would want to have at least three as a minumum in the training field or you'd wear yourself out running back and forth to put out birds. I personally am lucky enough, even in this quail poor state, to have places to train my dog that have wild birds on them. None are private property. If you look, you can find places. The reality now is most of us amateurs who train our own dogs have to balance dog training with our daily lives. 99% of the time I train by myself. You have to get a little creative training all by yourself. Sincerely, Bob Dave,

Unfortunately, in this day and age, practically everyone has to use some form of pen raised bird to train their dog. Some people’s dogs never get to see a wild bird as they continue to pursue only preserve birds the dogs entire life. As you well know, pen raised birds present some unique challenges you have to deal with.

Buying your own laucher is a delemia I think every one or two dog amateur trainer faces. A remote launcher is a big investment. I just can’t justify buying one.

I think the best way for a one dog trainer like myself is to join together with others and buy some or join a dog club that has some you can use. I would think you would want to have at least three as a minumum in the training field or you’d wear yourself out running back and forth to put out birds.

I personally am lucky enough, even in this quail poor state, to have places to train my dog that have wild birds on them. None are private property. If you look, you can find places.

The reality now is most of us amateurs who train our own dogs have to balance dog training with our daily lives. 99% of the time I train by myself. You have to get a little creative training all by yourself.

Sincerely, Bob

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